When we think about nature, we often see it as something separate from us: something to visit, to admire, or even to protect. But for many communities, nature isn’t a place; it’s who they are.

 To explore this topic I spoke with Serko Mamoribo-Carels, who is an expert on indigenous communities and cultures. He has an Indigenous background from Papua himself and is living in the Netherlands. We talked about what it means to be Indigenous, how his community is affected by climate change, and what lessons we can take from their relationship with nature.